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Clive: "I really wanted for once for the title to mean something, you know, and for there to be
pieces which, yeah, were a little hellish and pieces which were a little heavenly. And Heaven and Hell are always different to
everyone who imagines them, but some of the characters that I've painted - there's a picture called Cosmic, for instance, which is
a naked man who is piebald coloured, white and black and in the black there are stars. And that to me is very much a heavenly
image - it's an image of a man who's totally at peace with himself, and who has, somehow or other, drawn the universe and the
mysteries of the universe into himself... And then there are, as you say, images which are profoundly disturbing - and then there are
pictures which I think are open to a sort of interpretation: the picture of the man amongst the bamboo...
"It's great! I mean it's a big gallery, it's four big rooms and one small room, and both Bert and I have a sense that we should give the big paintings a lot of space, but, with the smaller pieces, particularly the letters, for instance - the chapter headings - we've put all of those, all ten of those together on a wall and they look wonderful!
"And you'll see when I do this video for you, and I take you round, you'll see how it all plays out... So yes, I'm very pleased - I feel the gallery is really filled to its limit is the thing, if there is going to be enough space given to each painting, then it is filled absolutely to capacity. There isn't a single place I would put another painting."
Heaven, Hell And The Dreaming Space Between
By Phil and Sarah Stokes, 5 December 2005 (note - full text here)